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Postby Kickflip » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:57 am

Sure, it works... very well in a lot of areas, but there's lots of little tweaks that lots of users have been asking about for a long time. Years, in some cases!

Personally it ends up being frustrating as Geist is pretty much the centre of my drum workflow, and Guru was before that. And Guru worked in exactly the way I used to work before I got Guru, so it's been a long standing bit of kit in my arsenal, and I'd love to see it get a bit of a polish.
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Postby Fingerella » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:39 am

Well, the way i see it, you (we) paid for something that could try with the demo version. We agreed to pay for that and then, as customers, we can make suggestions of features&updates that fit our workflow. If FXPansion choses to ignore the most requested ones then its our decision to stop buying their products, and for sure we´ll have a negative opinion about the devs which i think its the most dangerous thing that can happen to them, cause this is going to be spreaded quick&easily all over the internet, most likely stopping other people to buy their products.

ARNK, sorry i just misread your word and forgive my lack of proper english but isnt duped something like fooled or tricked? If so i again think you are not using the right word: you tried the demo, liked it and bought that, with that set of features.


Personally, i love Geist and of course there are things that i think could be improved. I tried other options but, so far, i am getting the most out of Geist so for now i am staying with it for beat mangling. Needless to say there are other products catching up really quickly, with frequent updates and awesome features too so, if nothing gets done, i see myself dropping it in the future.

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Postby Kickflip » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:21 am

Unfortunately, I’ve been seeing posts in threads on other forums (Gearslutz and KVR spring to mind) where FXpansion is getting a reputation for releasing products but sporadically updating them. And it’s a shame to see those posts because the products are great, but some need a bit of a push to bring them up to date!

Apple got the same thing with Logic - they’d not released any decent updates for years, and the ones that did come out only addressed a few little things. As a result, people were jumping ship to Ableton Live, Studio One and Cubase. Now they’ve released Logic X, and several nicely featured updates (seriously, 10.0.7 took me about an hour to read through it all! I was hungover, but still… ), customer confidence is building up again.
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Postby Fingerella » Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:08 am

Oh so its not just Geist? I have only purchased Geist from them. I had the feeling they were not updating Geist good enough cause they just thought they lost this battle against Maschine (when actually i think Geist is much better in many aspects).

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Postby jbrown3 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:31 am

Fingerella wrote:Oh so its not just Geist? I have only purchased Geist from them. I had the feeling they were not updating Geist good enough cause they just thought they lost this battle against Maschine (when actually i think Geist is much better in many aspects).


No. I've used Fxpansion products since the early 2000's with DR-002, DR-008, Guru, and BFD. Updates are mostly bug fixes, with user feature requests being filled far and few in between. However, they've done a good job supporting BFD and synths. Just not Geist and later versions of GURU.

But GURU was the closest to being on track with updates at one point too. It too, was the center of my workflow (mistake). But then they phased it out, went to Geist and started focusing on synths more it seems (with the exception of BFD stuff).

I think at one point (but I am not positive), they had a 3rd party developer (Devine Machine Software) do some of the GURU work for them. But that relationship must have severed or something before getting to GURU 2.0 and going to Geist. But anyhow, its the same formula for years. It looks like they are like most other companies that focus on their bread winner products mostly as opposed to the whole line or legacy stuff. Companies like NI and Ableton are changing that philosophy though it seems.

Not to be a thorn, but as far as drumming, production studio tools, NI has been the most pro-active with pulling in the user's feature requests and complaints. Like many, I did buy Maschine, but by then I had 100's, of tracks and kits tied to GURU. I bought Geist, thinking this would carry the torch from GURU. But the ball kind of dropped. I've kept Geist on the shelf for years now waiting for the basic bread and butter items that I need to be production-efficient (e.g. kit names being displayed in the engine, etc). I refuse to switch over my workflow (again) to something that may or may not be full heartedly supported.

Not to sound negative, but honestly, if Geist doesn't ultimately address the issues that I need (not want, but need), and they keep moving on to other products, this is definitely my last Fxpansion product that I will ever purchase.

But we can threaten them all we want, but it won't matter. Because they won't really miss the Geist users, as their other flagship products will keep them afloat. But I'm not giving anymore money to Fxpansion.

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Postby Drew_BFDTeam » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:24 pm

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Postby Kickflip » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:28 pm

Intriguing!
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Postby Fingerella » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:30 pm

Ok, i think we are into something! :)

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Postby Airyck » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:53 pm

Yep.... I double checked... you guys know how to count to 64... at least! :P

No matter how much of an angle I look at the monitor I can't see down the side any further.
Looks like something though, I hope there is more to the plugin 8)

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Postby emef » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:07 pm

oh yeah! more pads, more geist, this is exciting innit bruv

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Postby Kickflip » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:33 am

I realise I'm massively jumping the gun, but if this could be joined up with the shortlists in some way, it'd be a great way to try out different sounds to use in a 16-pad kit. :wink:
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Postby Fingerella » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:14 am

It also could be a some kind of photoshop trolling from Drew....

I went a step further and used not only pad pics:
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Postby Kickflip » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:22 am

It could, but I think that'd be excessively cruel, and therefore unlikely. I took it as throwing us a bone to say 'we can't say anything yet, but things *are* happening, look!'.

Dunno where you got that photo from though, are you sure you're allowed to post that? :shock:
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Postby Fingerella » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:31 am

Oh my..i was obviously kidding!!! :D

There´s something coming for sure. I am sooo exicted! Thanx FXP!

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Postby Kickflip » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:33 am

So was I, hahaha... :P
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