I have been honest; you and others can't see that. In my book honesty means telling it like I see it and I did. Not fan fan of the old phrase 'if you don't have anything nice to say about something don't say it'. Simply put - nothing in BFD3 works for me to make me want to buy it - get it? I have put out here (not in this thread but in others) how things could have been improved but was told by fxpansion people to stop it/lay off. To me that says they don't want to hear criticism about their product.gaheba wrote:The problem is learning a whole new way of working and I don't want to deal with that if I can help it.
Jack, in all honesty the learning curve is not that intimidating if you just buckle up and jump in. If I can do it any monkey can - seriously. I am a complete bunny when it comes to computers and software but I still get my way around and it still
opens up creative possibilities for me and thats the fun bit! Right?what does BFD3 really bring to the table to make me want to buy it and put up with a horrible gui - not a thing.
The groove editor!! Its awesome and for me is itself all on its lonesome worth the entry price! Drum rudiments! Still learning that bit but....what a step up from BFD2.
The GUI is expandable. On my 27" iMac I can stretch BFD3 pretty much right accross the whole width of the screen - which is just beautiful for working on grooves and drum tracks.
I did not like the gui either at first. Like the others above have said, the loss of the kit view was a huge disappointment for me (I had voted for its retention), however it is fast fading into the background as a dealbreaker. More important is the improved workflow of the new layout.
The browser (for grooves, kits and instruments, and presets) - much better than BFD2 - more immediate, accessible, navigable.
The sound: this is somewhat subjective, but for me when I listen to one of my own presets in BFD3 then listen to the same preset in BFD2, the latter sounds somewhat muffled. Its kind of subtle, but the sound of BFD2 seems to lack a presence and punch that BFD3 has. Just my impression, not saying its the truth or anything. However if you gave me a desert island choice, I would pick BFD3. Its not a question of processing either, as I rarely do any processing in the BFD2 mixer, although that may change now.Then again anything I have to say negative makes no sense to the beta tester fanboys.
Jack, there is nothing wrong with a bit of criticism and voicing your concerns. I get the demo doesnt work for you. So why not point out the problems and limitations of the demo constructively without all the blaming and faultfinding and sniping? You have an opportunity to contribute something to the development of BFD3 with your unique viewpoint - so take it. Your concerns with the demo doesn't have to be about being or saying something negative, insulting, or demeaning about Fx and other users does it? Make what you have to say a contribution, an offer, rather than an expression of some upset you have.
FWIW, I was not a beta tester. I am however an unapologetic fan boy - of both BFD2 and BFD3! That doesnt mean I dont have issues at times or get grumpy about those issues. I am still a fanboy and I still have issues at times. I take no offense or insult from that accusation!If there were only more honest people like me (reviewers especially) maybe companies would pay attention to the criticism. Maybe my fault is being too honest
Actually, I think the issue here was that you havent really been honest at all. If you were just straight about both what works and doesnt work for you, your concerns would quickly and easily gain an appreciative ear. And you wouldnt have to snipe at other users.
Not sniping at other users.
Actually I did put out one positive thing and that was that maybe BFD3 would be a better deal for someone who's never used older versions.